IC Zora av Skara Brae, F, NFO fs 09 23, 5/10/13, CH/- | ||||||
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Printer Friendly | Generations:
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 | Inbreeding = 2.36%
| Test mate
Inbreeding calculated based on 254 ancestors (201 unique) of 254 possible, 7 complete generations out of 7
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Sire SC Ghost Rider Forest Myths, JW, DVM, NFO n 09, 3/25/12, NL/CH |
Karlik Karodok, DM, NFO n, 2/28/09, PL/NL |
CH Nenya's Ka D'Argo, NFO n 09 24, 6/17/07, SE/PL |
EC Aristo Limaz Jacque Vegas, NFO d 09 22, 9/27/04, SE/SE |
CH Jean J. Rousseau am Baerenbach, DM, NFO n 09, 4/12/01, CH/SE |
EC Prins Barfott av Fager, NFO n 09 22, 11/25/98, DE/CH |
WW'99 EC Remis Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n, 9/20/97, DK/DK |
EC Tora Vik Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09 22, 5/14/92, DK/DE |
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CH Four Roses am Baerenbach, NFO n 09, 5/7/98, CH/CH |
WW'96 EC Magnus av Fager, NFO n 09 23, 11/22/95, DE/FR |
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IC Dear Mouse am Baerenbach, NFO a, 10/8/96, CH/CH |
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IC Mighty Claw's Pocahontas, DM, NFO f 09 22, 3/1/01, SE/SE |
IP & EC Micehunter's Fantasio, DM, NFO e 22, 1/8/00, SE/SE |
IP EC Rockringen's Hoodoo Guru, DM, NFO n 09 22, 8/20/98, SE/SE |
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IC Cinderella, NFO e 09 23, 11/15/92, SE/SE |
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IP CH MorrHoppans Ozca, DM, NFO f 09 22, 11/1/99, SE/SE |
PR EC Solkullas Frode, NFO d 22, 4/20/98, SE/SE |
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GIC MorrHoppans Luna, NFO ns 09 22, 7/5/96, SE/SE |
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PR IC Nenya's Harley Quinn, NFO n 03 24, 11/21/05, SE/SE |
GIC Europa's Undulat Dræber, NFO ns 09 23, 3/4/04, DK/DK |
EP EC Frejkatten's Dristige Ditlev, NFO d 09, 8/27/02, DK/DK |
IC Killix Go-Cart Gucci, NFO n 09, 6/13/01, DK/DK |
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Frejkatten's Adelige Amalie, NFO f 09, 7/23/00, DK/DK |
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GIC Mar'Michel's U'arda Utchi, NFO ns 09 23, 8/1/02, SE/DK |
IC Flying Dutchman av Kiruna, NFO ns 09 22, 10/30/98, CH/CH |
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Mar'Michel's Ike'Bana, NFO f 09, 4/13/99, SE/SE |
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EC Nenya's Vàna Eluinil, NFO a 09, 1/27/04, SE/SE |
IC Utblicken's Gordon, NFO n 09, 11/13/02, SE/SE |
EC Juvelens Rubin, DM, NFO d 09 22, 11/17/00, SE/SE |
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GIC Aliosha's Glana Simpandottir, DM, NFO a 09 22, 8/11/00, SE/SE |
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Utblicken's Linnea Luthien, NFO f, 11/7/02, SE/SE |
IC Utblicken's Zylvester, NFO a, 3/1/01, SE/SE |
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Aristo Limaz Kirina Jozip, NFO f 09, 11/1/01, SE/SE |
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CH Frania Karodok, NFO n 09 22, 5/18/07, PL/PL |
EC Afjord's Cyrano, DM, DSM, NFO n 09 23, 4/16/99, DE/PL |
PR GIC Dansbjergs Ejnar, NFO d 09 23, 12/2/97, DK/- |
EC Dansbjergs Rasmus, NFO n 09 23, 3/13/91, DK/DK |
Pan's Tacho, NFO n 09 22, 3/18/90, NO/DK |
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Spicaway Jian, DM, NFO n, 10/8/88, DK/DK |
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Dansbjergs Ofelia II, NFO f 22, 7/19/95, DK/DK |
EC Dansbjergs Calle, NFO n 23, 6/14/93, DK/DK |
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EC Dansbjergs Pernille, NFO f 09, 3/12/93, DK/DK |
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IC Afjord's Yo-Yo, NFO a 09 23, 7/25/97, DE/DE |
IC Dansbjergs Haldur, NFO n 09, 4/26/94, DK/DE |
EC Dansbjergs Balder, NFO d 09 23, 7/18/91, DK/DK |
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Spicaway Jian, DM, NFO n, 10/8/88, DK/DK |
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EC Afjord's Kirsi, NFO n 23, 3/1/95, DE/- |
PR & IC Afjord's Gandalf, NFO a 23, DE/- |
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Janou av Bellefjord, NFO n 09 23 |
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GIC Titran's Utrolige Molly, NFO n 09 22, 5/3/03, BE/PL |
EC Skogsrået's Aramis, NFO n 09 22, 4/24/97, SE/DE |
EP EC Rockringen's Johnny Rotten, NFO d 22, 11/17/94, SE/SE |
CH Revelia's Chat Noir, NFO n 09, 2/18/92, NO/SE |
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PR IC Sassa, DM, NFO d 22, 4/28/93, SE/SE |
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IC Tigerögas Emilia, NFO f 09 23, 3/18/95, SE/SE |
EC Putchi Two av Hulder, NFO n 09, 11/27/92, NO/NO |
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GIC Fåfängans Mira, DM, NFO f 09 22, 12/5/89, SE/SE |
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SP EC Måneskinn's Lenja, DM, DSM, DVM, NFO n 09 23, 2/24/00, NL/NL |
GIC Yannick av Fager, NFO n 09 22, 4/18/96, DE/DE |
EC Karl Johan Felis Jubatus, NFO a 22, 8/28/92, DK/- |
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EC Tora Vik Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09 22, 5/14/92, DK/DE |
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EC Regine Olsen Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09 23, 6/9/97, DK/DE |
EP EC Gustav Vasa Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO a 09, 7/26/95, DK/DK |
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EC Bergansius Nehalennia, DM, NFO w 63, 6/24/94, NL/DK |
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IC Stratocaster Blue Tanis, NFO w, 7/6/09, CH/- |
EC & SC Farrell z Krainy Asgardu, NFO n 09 23, 1/28/07, PL/CH |
EC Imperio Artemisa, DM, NFO n 09 22, 4/10/03, ES/PL |
EC Scar de Stang ar Voud, NFO n 09 22, 6/24/01, FR/ES |
CH Oba Sultan, NFO n 09 23, 12/14/91, DK/FR |
EC Oba Papageno, DM, NFO n 09 23, 6/3/87, DK/DK |
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IC Flatland's Brynhilde, DM, NFO n 09 22, 3/27/89, NO/DK |
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Rosita de Stang ar Voud, NFO n 09 23, 2/23/00, FR/FR |
EC Heaven Hills Big Bang, DM, NFO n 09 23, 10/10/93, SE/SE |
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Ambient Final Fantasy, NFO n 24, 12/6/96, SE/FR |
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Gema Artemisa, NFO n 23, 4/14/01, ES/ES |
EC Tigressan's Kayot, NFO n 09 23, 6/10/97, SE/ES |
IC Gomorran's King Kreole, NFO n 09 23, 11/14/94, SE/SE |
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Tigressan's Chantal, NFO n 23, 8/25/95, SE/SE |
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EC Sekan Mitzy, NFO ns 23, 5/13/95, NO/ES |
IC Nilsstra Jesper, NFO ns 25, 6/2/91, NO/NO |
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Sekan Sitana, NFO as 23, 4/17/89, NO/- |
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SC Lara Lesny Lowca, DSM, DM, NFO n 09 23, 10/19/02, PL/PL |
GIC Celt z Sosnowego Boru, NFO n 09 22, 6/8/01, PL/PL |
EC Afjord's Cyrano, DM, DSM, NFO n 09 23, 4/16/99, DE/PL |
PR GIC Dansbjergs Ejnar, NFO d 09 23, 12/2/97, DK/- |
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IC Afjord's Yo-Yo, NFO a 09 23, 7/25/97, DE/DE |
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IC Emilka Agpamis, NFO f 09 23, 5/21/99, PL/- |
IC Huldrenissen's Calvin Klein, DM, NFO d 09 23, 11/12/97, DK/PL |
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IC Starkad's Java, NFO f 09 23, 12/19/97, DK/PL |
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IC Eurydyka AB-Cat, NFO n 09 23, 9/8/00, PL/PL |
IP EC Golden Delicious Felis Jubantus, DM, DSM, NFO n 09 23, 7/22/96, DK/PL |
IC Kong Gulerod Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO d 09 23, 4/17/95, DK/SE |
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EC Flatland's Clara, DM, NFO n 09 23, 4/1/90, NO/DK |
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IC Bamako Karodok, NFO n 09, 5/29/96, PL/PL |
IC Bergansius Sardanas, NFO n 23, 2/19/95, NL/PL |
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CH Pythia Tell Me Why, NFO f 09, 5/22/94, PL/PL |
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WW'05 SC Nirvana Blue Tanis, JW, NFO w, 3/5/05, CH/CH |
SC Love & Peace Blue Tanis, JW, DVM, NFO w 64, 7/18/03, CH/CH |
IC La Forêt's Valiant, NFO w 62, 10/26/01, DK/CH |
IC La Forêt's Imponerende Samson, DM, NFO n 09 23, 3/29/99, DK/DK |
IC Le Rassy's Leopoldsen, NFO n 23, 6/1/97, DK/- |
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Kvilles Wilma Prikken, NFO n 09, 5/26/97, DK/- |
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IC Europa's Kønne Sussi, NFO w, 7/19/98, DK/DK |
WW'95 EC Skovhugger Felis Jubatus, NFO w 62, 9/5/94, DK/DK |
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IC Europa's Kærlige Krissi, NFO f 23, 4/4/96, DK/DK |
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SP EC Kara Mell av Fjellheia, DSM, DVM, DM, NFO f 09, 5/11/02, CH/CH |
CH H'Neil Young Blue Tanis, DM, NFO n 09 23, 8/6/00, CH/CH |
IC Fogerty Blue Tanis, NFO n, 10/9/98, CH/- |
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CH Obladi Oblada Feux d'Aurès, NFO n 09 23, 7/13/98, FR/CH |
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EC Honeybee av Fjellheia, DM, NFO fs 09 22, 8/4/00, CH/CH |
EC Oskar-Augustson av Trulla, NFO ds 09 23, 7/9/96, DE/DE |
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EC Angie am Baerenbach, DM, NFO n 23, 4/28/93, CH/CH |
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IC Miss Sixties Blue Tanis, DM, NFO n 23, 2/14/04, CH/CH |
CH H'Neil Young Blue Tanis, DM, NFO n 09 23, 8/6/00, CH/CH |
IC Fogerty Blue Tanis, NFO n, 10/9/98, CH/- |
Skovridder Felis Jubatus, NFO n 23, 6/11/94, DK/- |
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EC Naima's Zora, NFO w, 3/18/92, CH/CH |
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CH Obladi Oblada Feux d'Aurès, NFO n 09 23, 7/13/98, FR/CH |
WW'98 GIC Narya le Grand Feux d'Aures, NFO n 09 23, 7/3/97, FR/FR |
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Nisse Feux d'Aurès, NFO n 09 23, 7/3/97, FR/- |
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IC Killix Linda Luna, NFO n 23, 12/30/02, DK/CH |
EC Europa's Danske Gorm, DM, NFO n 23, 7/12/98, DK/DK |
EP EC Gustav Vasa Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO a 09, 7/26/95, DK/DK |
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IC Europa's Juba Datter, NFO n 09 23, 12/8/96, DK/DK |
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EC Europa's Nougat Nød, DM, NFO n, 9/7/96, DK/DK |
EC Silverwood's Big Brown Bastian, DM, NFO n 23, 5/20/95, DK/DK |
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EC Europa's Hip Hurra, NFO n 23, 2/17/95, DK/DK |
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Dam SC Sélenia av Skara Brae, DVM, NFO fs 09 23, 10/31/09, CH/CH |
SC Titran's Uranos, JW, NFO n 09 23, 5/3/03, BE/CH |
EC Skogsrået's Aramis, NFO n 09 22, 4/24/97, SE/DE |
EP EC Rockringen's Johnny Rotten, NFO d 22, 11/17/94, SE/SE |
CH Revelia's Chat Noir, NFO n 09, 2/18/92, NO/SE |
GIC Ollendorff's Columbus, NFO d, 2/10/89, NO/NO |
EC Felix, NFO n 09, 2/21/86, NO/NO |
EC Wicky av Myre, DM, NFO f 09, 5/31/87, NO/NO |
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EC Tigerstaden's Elisa, NFO f 09, 11/8/89, NO/NO |
EC Ravnesåsen's Chess, NFO n 09, 6/1/87, NO/NO |
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GIC Pan's Tiffany, NFO f 09, 11/24/86, NO/NO |
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PR IC Sassa, DM, NFO d 22, 4/28/93, SE/SE |
IC Ghost Cats Wild Cherokee, NFO e 09 22, 4/25/89, SE/SE |
Adolfinas Eros, NFO a 09 22, 3/14/88, SE/SE |
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Ghost Cats Atozza, NFO gs 09 23, 3/16/88, SE/- |
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Demoonas Jossefin, NFO f, 7/25/91, SE/SE |
EC Christiania's Gustaf, NFO d 23, 4/25/88, NO/SE |
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Porfyrgårdens Desdemona, NFO n 09, 9/10/86, SE/- |
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IC Tigerögas Emilia, NFO f 09 23, 3/18/95, SE/SE |
EC Putchi Two av Hulder, NFO n 09, 11/27/92, NO/NO |
EP EC Truls av Bolke, DM, NFO n 09 23, 12/15/87, NO/NO |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 10/5/84, NO/NO |
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IC Gråpus, NFO n 09 23, NO/- |
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EC Mafalda av Hulder, NFO n 09, 3/17/88, NO/NO |
EC Felix, NFO n 09, 2/21/86, NO/NO |
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Frida, NFO n 23, 5/1/82, NO/NO |
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GIC Fåfängans Mira, DM, NFO f 09 22, 12/5/89, SE/SE |
EC Freddy av Myre, DM, NFO d 09 23, 5/31/87, NO/SE |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 10/5/84, NO/NO |
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IC Mitzi av Myre, NFO d 09 23, 4/10/84, NO/- |
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Torvmyra's Zebrina, NFO f 09 22, 9/23/85, NO/SE |
CH Frigg av Baune, NFO d 09 22, 5/2/84, NO/NO |
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IC Torvmyra's Floruska Fredelina, NFO n 09 23, 10/17/80, NO/- |
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SP EC Måneskinn's Lenja, DM, DSM, DVM, NFO n 09 23, 2/24/00, NL/NL |
GIC Yannick av Fager, NFO n 09 22, 4/18/96, DE/DE |
EC Karl Johan Felis Jubatus, NFO a 22, 8/28/92, DK/- |
WW'91 EC Flatland's Bjørnstierne, DM, NFO n 22, 3/27/89, NO/DK |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 10/5/84, NO/NO |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 11/30/86, NO/NO |
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EC Flatland's Avedine, DM, NFO w 61, 8/17/85, NO/DK |
GIP IC Christiania's Rudolf, NFO n 23, 4/1/84, NO/NO |
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Claire, NFO w 62, NO/NO |
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EC Tora Vik Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09 22, 5/14/92, DK/DE |
WW'91 EC Flatland's Bjørnstierne, DM, NFO n 22, 3/27/89, NO/DK |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 10/5/84, NO/NO |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 11/30/86, NO/NO |
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EC Flatland's Clara, DM, NFO n 09 23, 4/1/90, NO/DK |
EP EC Truls av Bolke, DM, NFO n 09 23, 12/15/87, NO/NO |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 11/30/86, NO/NO |
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EC Regine Olsen Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09 23, 6/9/97, DK/DE |
EP EC Gustav Vasa Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO a 09, 7/26/95, DK/DK |
EC Solhuset's Sylvester, NFO n 09 22, 5/14/89, SE/SE |
Audhumlas Ferrari Don Fernando, NFO a 09 23, 12/25/87, SE/- |
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Pan's Laura, NFO n 23, 12/28/86, NO/SE |
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WW'94 EC Gwynne Vaughani Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09, 7/13/92, DK/DK |
EC Flatland's Celius, DM, NFO n, 4/1/90, NO/DK |
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EC Greatest Hits Nefertite, DM, NFO a 09, 7/28/88, DK/DK |
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EC Bergansius Nehalennia, DM, NFO w 63, 6/24/94, NL/DK |
EC Gustav Wied Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO w 63, 9/13/86, DK/DK |
EC Colosseum Gustav Graah, DM, NFO ns 09 23, 5/3/81, NO/DK |
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EC Flatland's Avedine, DM, NFO w 61, 8/17/85, NO/DK |
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GIC Helga Den Fagre Felis Audax, DM, NFO n 23, 6/16/91, DK/NL |
WW'91 EC Flatland's Bjørnstierne, DM, NFO n 22, 3/27/89, NO/DK |
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WW'91 Hedda Gabler Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09 23, 6/22/90, DK/DK |
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IC Clara Smith de Laïloken, NFO fs 09, 5/11/07, FR/CH |
EC Korsaire av Skara Brae, NFO d 09 23, 6/27/02, CH/FR |
PR EC Jericho av Skara Brae, NFO d 22, 5/25/01, CH/CH |
PR EC Mimameids Ragnarök, NFO n 22, 10/31/97, SE/CH |
EC Ambient Muscadet, NFO n 22, 7/29/92, SE/SE |
GIC Huldrekatten's Satyr, NFO d, 3/9/90, NO/SE |
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IC Ambient Araving Beauty, NFO n 22, 4/19/89, SE/SE |
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GIC Tassajara's Ww Azariel, NFO a 09, 8/13/95, SE/SE |
EC Bondgården:s Täppas, NFO ns 22, 5/10/93, SE/SE |
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GIC Frøy Sparetta av Æsene, DM, NFO a 09 23, 11/7/85, NO/SE |
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GIC Moa's Rh. Queen of hearts, NFO f 09 23, 3/11/00, SE/CH |
IC Kong Gulerod Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO d 09 23, 4/17/95, DK/SE |
WW'91 EC Flatland's Bjørnstierne, DM, NFO n 22, 3/27/89, NO/DK |
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CH Karen Augusta Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO f 09, 2/25/94, DK/DK |
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Ekskogen's Tripping, DM, NFO n 09, 2/9/95, SE/SE |
IP EC Ollendorff's Tordenskjold, NFO n 09, 5/27/92, NO/SE |
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IC Ekskogen's Shalimar, NFO n 22, 11/15/90, SE/- |
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EP & EC Moa's Rh. Gipsy Queen, DM, DSM, NFO f 09 23, 7/17/97, SE/CH |
IC Kong Gulerod Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO d 09 23, 4/17/95, DK/SE |
WW'91 EC Flatland's Bjørnstierne, DM, NFO n 22, 3/27/89, NO/DK |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 10/5/84, NO/NO |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 11/30/86, NO/NO |
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CH Karen Augusta Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO f 09, 2/25/94, DK/DK |
EC Gustav Wied Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO w 63, 9/13/86, DK/DK |
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IC Vildkatten's Aurora, DM, NFO f 09 23, 1/5/88, SE/DK |
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EC Mar'Michel's Mecatti Orchida, DM, NFO f 09 23, 10/21/93, SE/SE |
CH Giovanni Bizzaro av Hulder, NFO n 09 23, 4/4/91, NO/SE |
EP EC Truls av Bolke, DM, NFO n 09 23, 12/15/87, NO/NO |
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EC Mafalda av Hulder, NFO n 09, 3/17/88, NO/NO |
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IC Mar'Michel's Mrs Beutiful Baby, NFO f 09 23, 3/3/88, SE/SE |
EC Freddy av Myre, DM, NFO d 09 23, 5/31/87, NO/SE |
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IC Fåfängans Felicia, NFO n 22, 1/8/87, SE/SE |
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IC Holy Angel av Skara Brae, DM, NFO ns 09, 6/18/00, CH/FR |
GIC Kong Salomon Felis Jubatus, NFO a 09 23, 3/26/97, DK/CH |
WW'91 EC Flatland's Bjørnstierne, DM, NFO n 22, 3/27/89, NO/DK |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 10/5/84, NO/NO |
EP GIC Niros Dunder, NFO n 23, 6/29/83, NO/NO |
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Pussi, NFO n 09, 12/5/82, NO/NO |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 11/30/86, NO/NO |
CH Torvmyra's Baldrian, NFO n 09 23, 12/24/85, NO/NO |
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Flatland's Alexis, NFO as 09, 8/17/85, NO/NO |
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CH Karen Augusta Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO f 09, 2/25/94, DK/DK |
EC Gustav Wied Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO w 63, 9/13/86, DK/DK |
EC Colosseum Gustav Graah, DM, NFO ns 09 23, 5/3/81, NO/DK |
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EC Flatland's Avedine, DM, NFO w 61, 8/17/85, NO/DK |
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IC Vildkatten's Aurora, DM, NFO f 09 23, 1/5/88, SE/DK |
Solhuset's Leopold J.S., NFO e 09 23, 1/2/86, SE/- |
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Gårdarikes Odille, NFO n 09 22, 6/30/86, SE/- |
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Aristo Limaz Irma, NFO ns 09 24, 7/22/98, SE/CH |
IP EC Aristo Limaz Jonathan M.A., NFO n 09 24, 7/22/96, SE/SE |
EC Silvermossens Azlan P.E., DM, NFO d 23, 4/8/95, SE/SE |
GIC Islandia C.I. Eski, NFO w, 11/13/90, SE/- |
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Islandia C.F. Peppar, NFO f, 1/15/92, SE/- |
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GIC Znorkan's Montana K.G, DM, NFO n 09 23, 9/5/95, SE/SE |
Skottspolen's Gucci, NFO n 09 23, 10/25/94, SE/SE |
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Gomorran's Karandra, NFO a 09 23, 11/14/94, SE/SE |
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Lönnebergas Astraea, NFO ns 09 23, 12/10/96, SE/SE |
GIP & IC Lönnebergas Cheva, NFO a 09, 4/12/95, SE/SE |
IC Four Roses Chagall, NFO ns, 7/7/93, SE/SE |
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Wonder's Tuva, NFO n 09, 11/15/93, SE/SE |
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Wonder's Silver Cerisse, NFO ns 09 24, 7/24/95, SE/SE |
EC Wonder's Guicci D White, NFO w, 1/4/92, SE/SE |
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CH Black Islands Velona, NFO fs 09 23, 2/19/93, SE/SE |
The correctness of this pedigree is not guaranteed.