Pennywise de Taur Fangorn, M, NFO ns 09 23, 2019-09-22, FR/- | ||||||
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Printer Friendly | Generations:
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 | Inbreeding = 3.93%
| Test mate
Inbreeding calculated based on 254 ancestors (161 unique) of 254 possible, 7 complete generations out of 7
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Sire Otello de la Fe-Felis, NFO n 09 22, 2018-02-22, FR/FR |
Magnus Ladelås av Fager, NFO a 09 23, 2009-05-01, DK/FR |
EC Flødekaramel Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO e 09 23, 1998-01-02, DK/DK |
EP EC Gustav Vasa Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO a 09, 1995-07-26, DK/DK |
EC Solhuset's Sylvester, NFO n 09 22, 1989-05-14, SE/SE |
Audhumlas Ferrari Don Fernando, NFO a 09 23, 1987-12-25, SE/- |
EC Ulvåsens Ferdinand, NFO n 22, 1986-10-09, SE/SE |
Audhumlas Bangsi, NFO n 09, 1986-11-15, SE/- |
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Pan's Laura, NFO n 23, 1986-12-28, NO/SE |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 1984-10-05, NO/NO |
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Sekan Tara, NFO n 23, 1985-05-17, NO/NO |
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WW'94 EC Gwynne Vaughani Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09, 1992-07-13, DK/DK |
EC Flatland's Celius, DM, NFO n, 1990-04-01, NO/DK |
EP EC Truls av Bolke, DM, NFO n 09 23, 1987-12-15, NO/NO |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 1986-11-30, NO/NO |
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EC Greatest Hits Nefertite, DM, NFO a 09, 1988-07-28, DK/DK |
GIC Artemis's Julius, NFO n 09, 1986-03-11, DK/DK |
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EC Gertrud Stein Felis Jubatus, NFO n 09, 1986-09-13, DK/- |
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CH Karen Augusta Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO f 09, 1994-02-25, DK/DK |
EC Gustav Wied Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO w 63, 1986-09-13, DK/DK |
EC Colosseum Gustav Graah, DM, NFO ns 09 23, 1981-05-03, NO/DK |
CH Asterix av Jerpefaret, NFO n 09 23, 1980-08-31, NO/NO |
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Colosseum Diana Verdi, NFO ns 09, 1980-05-12, NO/SE |
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EC Flatland's Avedine, DM, NFO w 61, 1985-08-17, NO/DK |
GIP IC Christiania's Rudolf, NFO n 23, 1984-04-01, NO/NO |
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Claire, NFO w 62, NO/NO |
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IC Vildkatten's Aurora, DM, NFO f 09 23, 1988-01-05, SE/DK |
Solhuset's Leopold J.S., NFO e 09 23, 1986-01-02, SE/- |
GIC Lado Skogmann H.T., NFO n 23, 1983-12-27, NO/SE |
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Solhuset's Josefina, NFO fs 09 23, 1984-10-17, SE/- |
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Gårdarikes Odille, NFO n 09 22, 1986-06-30, SE/- |
Torvmyra's Yngvar, NFO n 09 22, 1985-06-09, NO/SE |
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Stormor I Daloms Birka, NFO n 23, 1983-08-07, SE/SE |
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Pretty Polly av Fager, NFO a 09 22, 2002-08-27, DK/- |
Zuzet's Cinzano, NFO n 09 22, 2001-07-15, DK/- |
EC Danish Design's Erik Segersäll, NFO n 09 23, 2000-04-07, DK/DK |
EC Tynäsudden's Felix Brown, DM, NFO n 09 24, 1991-10-12, SE/SE |
GIC Elains Guicci Brown, NFO n 09 23, 1988-01-12, SE/SE |
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GIC Frosty, DM, NFO w 61, 1989-03-22, SE/- |
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WW'94 EC Gwynne Vaughani Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09, 1992-07-13, DK/DK |
EC Flatland's Celius, DM, NFO n, 1990-04-01, NO/DK |
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EC Greatest Hits Nefertite, DM, NFO a 09, 1988-07-28, DK/DK |
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Wallis Simpson Felis Jubatus, NFO a 09 23, 2000-07-03, DK/DK |
WW'91 EC Flatland's Bjørnstierne, DM, NFO n 22, 1989-03-27, NO/DK |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 1984-10-05, NO/NO |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 1986-11-30, NO/NO |
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Greatest Hits Evelyn Hope, NFO a 09 23, 1998-10-13, DK/DK |
Rainbow Demian Hiemalis, NFO n 09 23, 1991-06-18, IT/DK |
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Birgitta Trotzig Felis Jubatus, NFO a 09 23, 1995-07-26, DK/DK |
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EC Skønhedsplet Felis Jubatus, NFO n 09 23, 1993-02-28, DK/DK |
EC Flatland's Celius, DM, NFO n, 1990-04-01, NO/DK |
EP EC Truls av Bolke, DM, NFO n 09 23, 1987-12-15, NO/NO |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 1984-10-05, NO/NO |
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IC Gråpus, NFO n 09 23, NO/- |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 1986-11-30, NO/NO |
CH Torvmyra's Baldrian, NFO n 09 23, 1985-12-24, NO/NO |
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Flatland's Alexis, NFO as 09, 1985-08-17, NO/NO |
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CH Jorun Bjørnsdatter Felis Audax, NFO n 09 23, 1991-06-16, DK/DK |
WW'91 EC Flatland's Bjørnstierne, DM, NFO n 22, 1989-03-27, NO/DK |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 1984-10-05, NO/NO |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 1986-11-30, NO/NO |
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WW'91 Hedda Gabler Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09 23, 1990-06-22, DK/DK |
EC Colosseum Gustav Graah, DM, NFO ns 09 23, 1981-05-03, NO/DK |
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EC Flatland's Avedine, DM, NFO w 61, 1985-08-17, NO/DK |
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Frøken Nat og Dag Felis Jubatus, NFO n 09, 2012-06-16, DK/FR |
EC Danish Design's Erik Segersäll, NFO n 09 23, 2000-04-07, DK/DK |
EC Tynäsudden's Felix Brown, DM, NFO n 09 24, 1991-10-12, SE/SE |
GIC Elains Guicci Brown, NFO n 09 23, 1988-01-12, SE/SE |
EP CH Torvmyra's Exelsior, NFO n 09 23, 1986-08-08, NO/SE |
CH Frigg av Baune, NFO d 09 22, 1984-05-02, NO/NO |
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EC Torvmyra's Eviva Solterona, NFO n 09 23, 1979-10-27, NO/- |
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Enebackens Emma, NFO n 09 23, 1982-08-01, SE/- |
Pan's Sylvester, NFO n 09, 1979-03-28, NO/SE |
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IC Enebackens Cerina, NFO n 22, 1981-06-15, SE/SE |
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GIC Frosty, DM, NFO w 61, 1989-03-22, SE/- |
EC Blåbærskogens Fabian, NFO n 09, 1985-12-31, NO/SE |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 1984-10-05, NO/NO |
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Ruska, NFO a, NO/- |
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CH Lado April Kongsdatter, NFO w, 1987-04-14, NO/SE |
Lado Snøkongen, NFO w, 1985-05-28, NO/NO |
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IC Lado Iris F.T., NFO a 23, 1986-03-23, NO/NO |
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WW'94 EC Gwynne Vaughani Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09, 1992-07-13, DK/DK |
EC Flatland's Celius, DM, NFO n, 1990-04-01, NO/DK |
EP EC Truls av Bolke, DM, NFO n 09 23, 1987-12-15, NO/NO |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 1984-10-05, NO/NO |
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IC Gråpus, NFO n 09 23, NO/- |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 1986-11-30, NO/NO |
CH Torvmyra's Baldrian, NFO n 09 23, 1985-12-24, NO/NO |
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Flatland's Alexis, NFO as 09, 1985-08-17, NO/NO |
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EC Greatest Hits Nefertite, DM, NFO a 09, 1988-07-28, DK/DK |
GIC Artemis's Julius, NFO n 09, 1986-03-11, DK/DK |
IC Dovregubbens Mischa, NFO ns 09 23, 1984-03-18, DK/- |
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Kispus Bellona, NFO a 09, 1984-07-22, DK/- |
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EC Gertrud Stein Felis Jubatus, NFO n 09, 1986-09-13, DK/- |
EC Colosseum Gustav Graah, DM, NFO ns 09 23, 1981-05-03, NO/DK |
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EC Flatland's Avedine, DM, NFO w 61, 1985-08-17, NO/DK |
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EC Frøken Himmelblå Felis Jubatus, NFO a 09, 2000-03-04, DK/DK |
CH Aprilsnar Felis Jubatus, NFO a 09, 1999-04-01, DK/IS |
EC Flødekaramel Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO e 09 23, 1998-01-02, DK/DK |
EP EC Gustav Vasa Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO a 09, 1995-07-26, DK/DK |
EC Solhuset's Sylvester, NFO n 09 22, 1989-05-14, SE/SE |
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WW'94 EC Gwynne Vaughani Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09, 1992-07-13, DK/DK |
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CH Karen Augusta Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO f 09, 1994-02-25, DK/DK |
EC Gustav Wied Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO w 63, 1986-09-13, DK/DK |
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IC Vildkatten's Aurora, DM, NFO f 09 23, 1988-01-05, SE/DK |
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EC Flatland's Clara, DM, NFO n 09 23, 1990-04-01, NO/DK |
EP EC Truls av Bolke, DM, NFO n 09 23, 1987-12-15, NO/NO |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 1984-10-05, NO/NO |
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IC Gråpus, NFO n 09 23, NO/- |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 1986-11-30, NO/NO |
CH Torvmyra's Baldrian, NFO n 09 23, 1985-12-24, NO/NO |
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Flatland's Alexis, NFO as 09, 1985-08-17, NO/NO |
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Greatest Hits Evelyn Hope, NFO a 09 23, 1998-10-13, DK/DK |
Rainbow Demian Hiemalis, NFO n 09 23, 1991-06-18, IT/DK |
EC Gregers Werle Felis Jubatus, NFO ns 09, 1990-06-22, DK/IT |
EC Colosseum Gustav Graah, DM, NFO ns 09 23, 1981-05-03, NO/DK |
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EC Flatland's Avedine, DM, NFO w 61, 1985-08-17, NO/DK |
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CH Omega Jonadottar, NFO n 09 22, IT/- |
EC Greatest Hits Batman, NFO n 09, 1988-07-28, DK/- |
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Naima's Soraya, NFO a 09 23 |
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Birgitta Trotzig Felis Jubatus, NFO a 09 23, 1995-07-26, DK/DK |
EC Solhuset's Sylvester, NFO n 09 22, 1989-05-14, SE/SE |
Audhumlas Ferrari Don Fernando, NFO a 09 23, 1987-12-25, SE/- |
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Pan's Laura, NFO n 23, 1986-12-28, NO/SE |
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WW'94 EC Gwynne Vaughani Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09, 1992-07-13, DK/DK |
EC Flatland's Celius, DM, NFO n, 1990-04-01, NO/DK |
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EC Greatest Hits Nefertite, DM, NFO a 09, 1988-07-28, DK/DK |
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Dam Nanuk de Taur Fangorn, NFO ns 09 23, 2017-04-20, FR/FR |
Lucky Luky du Soleil de Minuit, NFO n 09, 2015-01-19, FR/FR |
Cyrrus du Soleil de Minuit, NFO n 23, FR/FR |
Sweeson's Al Pacino, NFO n 09 23 |
IC Mar'Michel's D'artagnan, NFO d 09 23, 1997-09-11, SE/FR |
CH Giovanni Bizzaro av Hulder, NFO n 09 23, 1991-04-04, NO/SE |
EP EC Truls av Bolke, DM, NFO n 09 23, 1987-12-15, NO/NO |
EC Mafalda av Hulder, NFO n 09, 1988-03-17, NO/NO |
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Glitterfjordens Egretta, NFO f 09, 1992-09-11, SE/SE |
GIC Huldrekatten's Satyr, NFO d, 1990-03-09, NO/SE |
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Glitterfjordens Z Ypsilon, NFO ns 09 22, 1989-08-19, SE/- |
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Sweeson's Suzel, NFO f 23, 2001-04-14, FR/FR |
WW'99 EC Remis Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n, 1997-09-20, DK/DK |
EP EC Gustav Vasa Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO a 09, 1995-07-26, DK/DK |
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EC Bergansius Nehalennia, DM, NFO w 63, 1994-06-24, NL/DK |
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Wilma-F av Fager, NFO f 09 23, 1996-09-23, DE/FR |
EC Karl Johan Felis Jubatus, NFO a 22, 1992-08-28, DK/- |
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GIC Moa's Rh. Bouquet De Flore, NFO fs 09 23, 1994-10-16, SE/DE |
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Bastet de la Ghilde des Elfes, NFO n 23, 2006-03-07, FR/FR |
EC Rizzotto el Condor Pacha, NFO n 09 23, 2000-08-02, FR/FR |
Papageno De Maneskinn, NFO n 09 23, FR/FR |
Oswald de Stang ar Voud, NFO n 09 22, FR/FR |
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Oba Nicoletta, NFO n 09 23, 1992-04-16, DK/- |
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Phosphine de Stang Ar Voud, NFO n 23, FR/FR |
CH Oba Sultan, NFO n 09 23, 1991-12-14, DK/FR |
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O'Annie de Maneskinn, NFO n 09 23, FR/FR |
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Sweeson's Vanir, NFO f 23, 2004-05-09, FR/FR |
Sweeson's Truls, NFO n 03 22 |
IC Godfather's Macwahoc, NFO n 09 23, 2000-04-23, FI/FR |
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Sweeson's Skogkatel, NFO n 09 22, FR/- |
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Sweeson's Suzel, NFO f 23, 2001-04-14, FR/FR |
WW'99 EC Remis Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n, 1997-09-20, DK/DK |
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Wilma-F av Fager, NFO f 09 23, 1996-09-23, DE/FR |
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Neytiri av Sno Valdres, NFO n 09, DE/- |
IC Tähtitassun Lumikide, NFO n 03, 2009-01-03, FI/DE |
EC Axel Oxenstierna Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09 23, 1993-08-06, DK/FI |
WW'91 EC Flatland's Bjørnstierne, DM, NFO n 22, 1989-03-27, NO/DK |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 1984-10-05, NO/NO |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 1986-11-30, NO/NO |
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EC Flatland's Clara, DM, NFO n 09 23, 1990-04-01, NO/DK |
EP EC Truls av Bolke, DM, NFO n 09 23, 1987-12-15, NO/NO |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 1986-11-30, NO/NO |
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IC Tähtitassun Tuiskutukka, NFO n 03, 2007-01-06, FI/FI |
EP CH Kirsikan Henrik, DSM, NFO n 03 22, 2006-01-18, FI/FI |
EC Kirsikan Gretzky, NFO n 09 22, 2003-08-20, FI/- |
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EP Kirsikka Felis Audax, DM, NFO f 09, 2004-12-24, DK/FI |
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EC Tähtitassun Miu-Mau, DM, NFO n 09 23, 2004-06-06, FI/FI |
IC Godfather's Wyatt Earp, JW, NFO n 09, 2002-12-27, FI/FI |
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GIC Tähtitassun Sinivuokko, NFO a 09 23, 2000-01-27, FI/FI |
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IC Coco Chanel Felis Audax, NFO f 09 23, 2007-09-30, DK/DE |
Marmatin Works Wonders, NFO d 24, 2003-08-04, FI/DK |
EC SmileTail's Ari Behn, NFO n 09 22, 2002-01-08, FI/FI |
EC Charles Austin av Boxerhaven, NFO d 09 22, 1999-08-07, NO/NO |
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GIC Embla's Solveig, NFO n 09, 2000-11-20, NO/FI |
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EC Alisa Camplin Felis Audax, NFO d 09 23, 2002-03-01, DK/FI |
IC Chewbacca's Reddie Eddie, NFO d 09 23, 2001-01-13, SE/DK |
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GIC Marimekko Felis Audax, DM, NFO f 09 22, 1995-03-04, DK/DK |
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Queen Elfhild Felis Audax, NFO n 09 22, 2003-11-23, DK/- |
CH Chewbacca's Raz the King, NFO ns 09 24, 2001-01-13, SE/DK |
PR & EC Tomten's Frazzeman, NFO d 22, 1998-10-12, SE/SE |
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IC Aristo Limaz Peggie-Sue, NFO gs 09, 1998-05-21, SE/SE |
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CH Miriél Felis Audax, NFO n 09 22, 1997-10-10, DK/DK |
Sebastian Felis Zeuthen, NFO n 09 22, 1996-05-06, DK/- |
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PR Amarina Felis Audax, NFO a 23, 1995-08-08, DK/- |
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Måneskinn's Kyra, NFO ns 03 22, 2009-11-22, DE/FR |
SC North-Dakota am Baerenbach, DM, DVM, NFO n 03 22, 2005-04-22, CH/CH |
IC Mad Max Blue Tanis, NFO n 09 23, 2004-02-14, CH/CH |
CH H'Neil Young Blue Tanis, DM, NFO n 09 23, 2000-08-06, CH/CH |
IC Fogerty Blue Tanis, NFO n, 1998-10-09, CH/- |
Skovridder Felis Jubatus, NFO n 23, 1994-06-11, DK/- |
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EC Naima's Zora, NFO w, 1992-03-18, CH/CH |
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CH Obladi Oblada Feux d'Aurès, NFO n 09 23, 1998-07-13, FR/CH |
WW'98 GIC Narya le Grand Feux d'Aures, NFO n 09 23, 1997-07-03, FR/FR |
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Nisse Feux d'Aurès, NFO n 09 23, 1997-07-03, FR/- |
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IC Killix Linda Luna, NFO n 23, 2002-12-30, DK/CH |
EC Europa's Danske Gorm, DM, NFO n 23, 1998-07-12, DK/DK |
EP EC Gustav Vasa Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO a 09, 1995-07-26, DK/DK |
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IC Europa's Juba Datter, NFO n 09 23, 1996-12-08, DK/DK |
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EC Europa's Nougat Nød, DM, NFO n, 1996-09-07, DK/DK |
EC Silverwood's Big Brown Bastian, DM, NFO n 23, 1995-05-20, DK/DK |
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EC Europa's Hip Hurra, NFO n 23, 1995-02-17, DK/DK |
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CH Kaydee-Mandy am Baerenbach, NFO n 09 22, 2002-06-04, CH/- |
EC Prins Barfott av Fager, NFO n 09 22, 1998-11-25, DE/CH |
WW'99 EC Remis Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n, 1997-09-20, DK/DK |
EP EC Gustav Vasa Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO a 09, 1995-07-26, DK/DK |
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EC Bergansius Nehalennia, DM, NFO w 63, 1994-06-24, NL/DK |
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EC Tora Vik Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09 22, 1992-05-14, DK/DE |
WW'91 EC Flatland's Bjørnstierne, DM, NFO n 22, 1989-03-27, NO/DK |
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EC Flatland's Clara, DM, NFO n 09 23, 1990-04-01, NO/DK |
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CH Jaded Blue Tanis, NFO f, 2001-05-23, CH/- |
GIC Ozzy Osborne Feux d'Aurés, NFO ds 09 23, 1998-08-17, FR/- |
GIC Mar'Michel's Bombastic, NFO n 09, 1997-01-04, SE/FR |
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IC Engaholm's Czarina, NFO fs 09 23, 1997-02-09, SE/FR |
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CH Patti Smith av Skara Brae, NFO n 09 23 |
IC Fogerty Blue Tanis, NFO n, 1998-10-09, CH/- |
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IC Faerie Tale av Skara Brae, NFO n 09 23 |
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IC Despina Felis Polaris, NFO ns 09 22, DE/DE |
GIC Yannick av Fager, NFO n 09 22, 1996-04-18, DE/DE |
EC Karl Johan Felis Jubatus, NFO a 22, 1992-08-28, DK/- |
WW'91 EC Flatland's Bjørnstierne, DM, NFO n 22, 1989-03-27, NO/DK |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 1984-10-05, NO/NO |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 1986-11-30, NO/NO |
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EC Flatland's Avedine, DM, NFO w 61, 1985-08-17, NO/DK |
GIP IC Christiania's Rudolf, NFO n 23, 1984-04-01, NO/NO |
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Claire, NFO w 62, NO/NO |
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EC Tora Vik Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09 22, 1992-05-14, DK/DE |
WW'91 EC Flatland's Bjørnstierne, DM, NFO n 22, 1989-03-27, NO/DK |
GIP EC Pan's Polaris, DM, NFO n 09, 1984-10-05, NO/NO |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 1986-11-30, NO/NO |
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EC Flatland's Clara, DM, NFO n 09 23, 1990-04-01, NO/DK |
EP EC Truls av Bolke, DM, NFO n 09 23, 1987-12-15, NO/NO |
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Libraaten's Avedine, DM, NFO n 23, 1986-11-30, NO/NO |
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GIC Måneskinn's Konja, NFO ns 09 |
IC Hvid Konge Felis Jubatus, NFO w 62, 1997-09-20, DK/DK |
EP EC Gustav Vasa Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO a 09, 1995-07-26, DK/DK |
EC Solhuset's Sylvester, NFO n 09 22, 1989-05-14, SE/SE |
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WW'94 EC Gwynne Vaughani Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO n 09, 1992-07-13, DK/DK |
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EC Bergansius Nehalennia, DM, NFO w 63, 1994-06-24, NL/DK |
EC Gustav Wied Felis Jubatus, DM, NFO w 63, 1986-09-13, DK/DK |
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GIC Helga Den Fagre Felis Audax, DM, NFO n 23, 1991-06-16, DK/NL |
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EC Måneskinn's Cassandra, NFO ns 09 22, 1995-07-13 |
CH Unikum av Trollsfjord, NFO ns 09, 1992-05-04 |
Satyr's Sir Lancelot, NFO ns 23, 1990-07-04, NO/- |
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Puppa av Trollsfjord, NFO a 09, 1991-03-31, DE/- |
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GIC Måneskinn's Aylin, NFO ns 22 |
Topolino av Trollsfjord, NFO as 23 |
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CH Bonadea Sakina, NFO ns 23, 1992-05-28 |
The correctness of this pedigree is not guaranteed.